against people who were basically threatening georgian interests and then the russians moving in, in defense of their interests and of their compatriots or citizens on the ground. so we're in a very similar situation here. the one big difference is that they were part of the republic of georgia and were always part of that territory. what we're talking about here about crimea where it does seem that the russians are at least laying the groundwork for some kind of legal case to suggest that perhaps crimea could at some juncture become part of the russian federation again so there really is a distinction there. but we've been there before. we've been there before with vladimir putin and frankly have been in very similar situations in the past as you've just laid out since the 1990s on a great deal of trouble over crimea, over ukraine, over the disposition of many of the states that have emerged after the soviet union. >> in terms of the motivations here on the russian side, if the russian federation does decide to stay in crimea on a permanent basis and, as you say, maybe even make a case for